Krasnodar vs Crvena zvezda by FairPlayBet

Krasnodar
VS
Crvena-zvezda
One early bet from europa league play offs. I think current odds represent very nice value and that will see way lower odds later. In fact odds on home team already started to drop from initial 1.85. Here and there, you still might find something like that, Marathonbet still offers 1.80.

 

I'm always careful when betting on Crvena zvezda cause it is hard to be objective when your favorite team is in question. But this time I have no problem with it, cause I'm definitely objective since my opinion is going completely against Crvena zvezda.

 

In Serbia there is currenty some kind of euphoria about Crvena zvezda, as in media as among fans. But I just do not see valid reasons for this. IMO Zvezda is with really slim chances to qualify to the group stage. They are surely complete outsiders in this first game on the road.

 

Let's take a look on so far season for the Serbian team. Zvezda is perfect in Serbia with 3 wins in as many rounds. But clearly, we should not count too much on domestic results given on very poor ranking of Serbian club football. In Europe Zvezda passed three rounds. But failed to win on the road either in Malta, either in Kazakhstan, both times against pretty modest opponents. Though in third round, it was great result for us. Namely, Crvena zvezda eliminated Sparta Prague after both wins. Still, this still was not enough to convince me Zvezda is a team able to compete on 50:50 with these high ranked opponents in the 4th round. Cause if you had chance to see previous round, then you saw not just solid Serbian team but more important you saw one very bad performance from Sparta. The team from Czech Republic was desperate to say at least. They were so weak that fans left the stadium 20 minutes before end of second leg, in some kind of protest. We should also mentioned that Sparta had plenty of injured players. They have invested money but those new players either were not able to help either played terrible game. Also Italian coach made some decisions that is hard to explaine. You are 0:2 down from the first leg and then start at home with one striker. In any case, even with one terrible performance, Sparta still made 4 to 5 great chances but only in final 15 minutes when went for all or nothing. So, Sparta has excellent ranking but currently they are nowhere near where probably wants to be. They even failed in domestic league season opener and played just 1:1 as 1.15 favorite. This is all why I'm not faling on fact Zvezda passed to 4th round. Krasnodar is way better opponent. The home team is one of best in strong Russian Premier League while Crvena zvezda is a team whose three four main players are those who played in the past in low quality teams in Russia and even there were not able to make a difference. Or even worst they could not play in Russian lower division. In the mean time Zvezda left without important player, Jovicic who got injured and as his replacement figure former member of Crvena zvezda, Mijailovic. One more of those above mentioned. Namely, he is currently not playing main role in Kryla Sovetov, team from second rank in Russia.

 

All in all, unfortunately I do not see anything promising for Crvena zvezda in this upcoming two legs meeting with Krasnodar. By all chances, Crvena zvezda will remain without group stage for 10th season in a row. Or, I at least do not see them able to avoid defeat in this first leg.

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Krasnodar Marathonbet 1.80 10 3-2 WON (+8 units)
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Comments (47)
aron50
I don't see why Krasnodar players are so better than Zvezda.Krasnodar hardly won in 93-th minute against Lingby.There is quite real possibility for Zvezda to make some positive result in first game.
08/09/2017 - 23:12
Martin Kamenarski
Aron 50, Krasnodar managed to make a great comeback after conceding in 67 minute, and won 2:1 for only 23 minutes, that is called class, not "hardly won in 93".On the reverse game they again showed their pure class scoring 3 goals in Denmark.Zvezda lives at old fame.
08/09/2017 - 23:42
aron50
What a class!? Lingby lost against Nordsjaelland 1-4 at home..and against Brondby 5-3 away whom Hajduk destroyed without problems.And I find Zvezda much stronger than Hajduk.I see draw in Russia..
08/10/2017 - 00:22
FairPlayBet
Zvezda much stronger than Hajduk? Mate, where do you live? Get back to reality a little bit. Zvezda is currenly barely top 10 in ex Yug.
Why I think Krasnodar is way better. It's already explained in the preview. Because they are one of best teams in Russia while in Zvezda 4 to 5 best players are those who have been garbage players in squads of bottom teams in Russian premier league, or even worst, they came from Russian first division. That's why. Seems like Mijailovic is the newest one.
And I am sick already from those indians who came here to play for 2 to 3 times more money than they have had there. Should I explaine why is like that? Should I explaine how those who brought them here steal from the club with these overpaid contracts?
Could it be draw in Russia? Yes, this is sport, everything is possible. But it could be also disaster with 4 or 5 to nil. In reality, it will be somewhere in the middle from draw to disaster. So, 2:0 I would say.
Zvezda stronger than Hajduk. Sorry, Zvezda MUCH stronger than Hajduk. I'm still laughing. Yes, and Partizan is probably better than Dinamo Zagreb. Lol
08/10/2017 - 02:29
aron50
18-02.2016 Sparta Prag-Krasnodar 1-0
25.02.2016 FC Krasnodar-Sparta Prag 0-3

Have a look on these 2 games in Europa league last year on you tube and you will see how poor is Krasnodar team. Sparta Prag that was just a walk in the park for Zvezda.
Crvena Zvezda is a class above them also above all teams in Croatia.
It's another story that you hate someone or something as a fan in Zvezda and can't see things really.
08/10/2017 - 03:12
Milosh
It is obvious that FairPlayBet is big supporter of Partizan, and he is not a right person to talk about Zvezda quality...
08/10/2017 - 11:41
football expert
@fairplaybet, This is not a good preview. Purely biased, l am not a fan of either club. We shall see what will happen in both legs. Maybe you are judging by unfairplaybet.
08/10/2017 - 12:37
Martin Kamenarski
Sparta Prague lost to Zvezda because they sold a lot of important players and because this year the first will directly play in Champions League so they will give it a try.Zvezda is really nothing scary at moment.
08/10/2017 - 13:57
Bosman
@FairPlayBet: If you write in English, you have to understand that you cannot translate literally from your own language, because foreigners may not understand something. Especially if it is a street slang or something like that. For example, you are referring to the Indians, who came to play for Red Star for big money?! Someone would think that Indians (who do not play football, at least not professionally in Europe) are brought to play and that really look confusing. On the other hand, you were offensive to talk about players who are bad in your opinion, using the name of the people who are far more civilized than most of the present nations. Since I know the speech you used, I know this is the second one, so I do not think it's necessary to do that on such sites and forums. Good luck...
08/10/2017 - 14:48
DamirJ
Sparta didn't sell a single important player during Summer, not a single player who was a real starting XI player during Spring got sold (even those who had some transfer fee didn't represent integral part and were transfer listed long time before end of previous season).

On contrary, they broke all the records of Czech's football this Summer with double digits number of millions of euros invested in the team during one transfer period. It doesn't take to be genius or football lover from Czech to know that more than a few names that came to Sparta in last months were just a "sexy dream" for all Czech's clubs till this season.

Their "ultras" leaving the stadium in 70th minute of second leg and manager Stramaccioni still being under pressure from media (despite a victory in league last Monday) to resign is surely a product of their long term commitment to play in CL next season and not disappointment of being excluded in Europe so early?

Silence is golden so many times.
08/10/2017 - 15:15
Bruda
Krasnodar vs Crvena zvezda X FT. Martin Kamenarski and FairPlayBet is not proper persons to predict!
08/11/2017 - 01:35
Dartagnan
Predicting Serbian team games without knowing who sold to whom and for how much is like guessing. Traditionally, Crvena Zvezda is a class team. So is Partizan. Krasnodar are peasants compared to those teams, but, today's soccer is not about the "traditionally" but what players did you acquire during the break and how will you make more money if you own the team - by laying and rolling over, or, by winning. Those games are unbeattable. The best advise is to stay away from any ex Yugoslavian team games betting wise.
Didn't mean to offend anyone except the corrupted people. So, if you got offended by what I wrote - you must be on the corrupted side of the coin. Or totally naive and dumb. One way or another - good luck
08/11/2017 - 10:13
Riki
Very nice preview. Well done. Pity krasnodar odd is too low now. I'll bet krasnodar -1.5.
08/11/2017 - 15:14
MG
Zvezda class above all Croatian teams...ha ha ha, this is a good one! Current UEFA ranking Dinamo ZG 79., Rijeka 104., Hajduk 137., annnnnnnnd Crvena Zvezda 220.
08/12/2017 - 08:15
MG
@Dartagnan another stereotype about ex Yugoslavian teams and leagues, do you really think that with so much money in football there is no corruption in Europe and rest of the world, but only in ex Yugoslavia. You have UEFA and FIFA for example.
08/13/2017 - 09:10
alex
Dartagnan

you must be joking.
Krasnodar is top team with very good financing from billionaire guy Galitzky and with skilled players.
Dont overestimate Crevna Zvezda the glory of CZ long time as passed and the competition in serbian league is joke.
Dont compare russian league with Serbian league .
Check how many times Russian teams won UEFA european league:
Zenit (2008) CSKA Moscow (2005)
The only factors consider for the game: Krasnodar
1) Krasnodar lost to injury key FW Smolov
2) Krasnodar had tough this week with 2 games
However Krasnodar in good form it should be able to beat CZ at home.

08/14/2017 - 07:07
aron50
Krasnodar is village team compared with Zvezda that will have for ever place in football history.This game Zvezda can't lose even if they want so stronger they are comparing with Kradnodar.Only long trip to Russia is advantage for host and thats'why I expect only minimal win for Zvezda otherwise 0-3 would be real score here.
08/14/2017 - 14:22
Outsider
Prime minister vucic will help them to win.He is ready to pay lot of money from budget of poor people of Serbia, to every one who can help red star to win this game against Krasnodar, refferees especially.
08/14/2017 - 23:36
Alex the Serb
Krasnodar is not some European top class obviously, but still they are high class for Crvena Zvezda who is not the best even in Serbia.Comparing Russian PL and Serbian Super liga is like comparing Juventus and some team from Serie C. Serbian league is a joke. It is all about who have more teams with friendly connection against whom will play friendly games and win easy points, who have more refferes on their side, which team is with better logistic. It's all about outside the pitch, not about game on the pitch. That's why in eurocups Serbian teams are not doing well, almost never. At least Zvezda is not. So, everything is clear here, who is the giant and who is a team erased from european football map long ago. You take Crvena Zvezda or any other Serbian team and put them in Russian Premier League, they would be relegated easily.
The only small problem here is fact like Krasnodar is in some kind of crises lately. Those draws at home even against some of weakest opponent there, it could be concern if you are going to bet them in this Europa League playoff first leg. Still, my opinion is Krasnodar will play much better against Zvezda. Cause you know, it depend also on quality of opponent. As opponent is weaker, you play better. But Krasnodar is not in too good form at this point, that's clear. I have impression Krasnodar was very fortunate to get Zvezda for opponent. If they had some serious opponent, at least a little bit more decent quality, Krasnodar would be in trouble. But this way against Zvezda, easy pass to group stage for Russians. Two, maybe even three difference in first leg, one difference or in worst case draw in second leg.
08/15/2017 - 00:30
Dartagnan
@alex
Did you even read what I wrote? Your answer is as relevant as if someone would ask you what time it is? And your answer would be that you are only 3 years old.
What the heck you're talking about Alex?
08/15/2017 - 08:26
Punki
I am so glad that so many people comment Crvena Zvezda!!! That show our strenght... I think stories about budget of Krasnodar and about Krasnodar like some world class club is just so overated. They are mediocre team, with some important injuries currently... their main advantage is our long trip, their home field and their biggest advantage is injury of Branko Jovicic one of the best in Zvezda, it will be very hard without him... Milojevic made chemistry, these players will die on field and I expect positive result for us, and when I said positive I mean 1:1 or even 2:1 Krasnodar win which will give us nice chance for match in Belgrade...
08/15/2017 - 10:42
Tole
Lets all be real here. So here's how it goes in short: Krasnodar has batter players than Zvezda on paper and so did Sparta Prague. Krasnodar form isn't really great but it is OK, their problem is they conceded 6 games in a row and from some crappy teams like Lyngby, Amkar and Ural all of those teams scored at least a goal on Krasnodar HOME ground. Another problem for Krasnodar is that their 2 best players Smolov and Laborde are injured and they are both attackers, additionally injured are Kritsyuk and Okriashvili. Now about Red Star, I've been following them last couple of years, the football they are playing right now under the new coach Milojevic is the best in last 10 years for sure. They have recently also broken their club record by minutes not conceding a goal, they kept their net intact in last 7 games in a row until this Sunday when they played Backa where they conceded 1. But do you know how many starting XI from Red Star played that game? 1 - and that was GK Borjan. Unfortunately mid. Jovicic is injured, he is a real motor of the team, keeps runing and covering everywhere on the pitch full 90min, we will see how will his replacement Mijailovic play. The problem for Red Star might be their inexperience in Euro competitions.
So, given the Krasnodar injury problem in attack and Red Stars great form, especially in defense the safest pick here would be under 2.5. Hard to go for a winner here it will be tight, someones mistake or magic will decide it. If it was in Belgrade under these circumstances I would go for straight Red Star win.
08/15/2017 - 17:59
football expert
@Tole , your analysis is purely football not sentiment. Football is more than a name, today , zenith struggled and we can all see the result. Tomorrow is the d-day
08/16/2017 - 20:57
Workaholic
From the comments it looks more like a "fight,,between Partizan vs Zvezda fans.
Very subjective thoughts and predictions,unfortunately !
08/17/2017 - 00:36
Bosman
@Tole You're watching RS and you expect Mijailovic to play? Maybe Vidic and Stankovic are in squad? Let's be serious and consider only current team, Mijailovic is not Red Star player... There was intentions about his comeback but it was canceled last week.
08/17/2017 - 00:56
Bokacnc
@Outsider .That's the biggest nonsense I've ever heard.
08/17/2017 - 11:54
JamesK
Did not even read all these comments. But Krasnodar is in UEFA club ranking number 55 and Crvena zvezda is number 225. Krasnodar has home advantage and it is long way to russia, and often hard place to play away games. ( I dont know where Krasnodar is playing close or far from europe?). Anyway if someone says Crvena is favorite he is surely wrong.
08/17/2017 - 12:55
Hassy
After reading ALL the comments I must say I'm loving the passion of the Serbian lads.

Must say Tole seems like the lad making a lot of sense here so I'm going with u2.5 goals
08/17/2017 - 13:54
Omg
Im laughing so hard at the people comparing clubs based on their fifa ranking. Thats a mindset of a 7 year old. OK so here's for those people: Sparta Prague is ranked 40 on that ranking and we all know what happened to them. This season Sparta also spent over 10m on singings. 2 seasons ago that Sparta made it to 1/4 of Europa League and in that same season they have beaten Krasnodar 3-0 and 1-0. But hey whatever.
And here is something to make those guys look even more funny: Hoffenheim that is playing Champions League is ranked 125.!!! Dnipro that has fallen apart finacially and I dont know if it even exists anymore is 39. on that ranking. But I'm guessing with your logic, Dnipro is stronger right? I don't even want to mention some other clubs ranked better than Hoffenheim.
08/17/2017 - 13:56
Nice
People upvoting this pick are the same ones that lost their money in both Sparta games :'D
Just love those guys that don't follow football but want to bet, it's the reason so many bookies exist and it looks like bookies will make some profit out of todays game again given the + given.
08/17/2017 - 14:00
JamesK
The ranking is not everything ( dont even know how or how fast they are calculated) BUT they will give some indication. UEFA does not make them up in random, so 225 cant be hugely better team than 55.

More to this game is affected by the home advantage, witch anyone following football at all knows is big thing in european football. So many times teams play much better at home than long way away from home. Crvena can win this game, but if you say they are favorite or have big chance to win you are as wrong as you can be. :)
08/17/2017 - 14:18
Dartagnan
31 comments!!!!!!!
Wow
It must PSG with Neymar hosting Neymarless Barca? Or is it about Ronaldo transfer to Rosenborg?
No. It is freaking Krasnodar against the Red Star!!! Europa League!!!! Wow. Are you guys getting paid by those teams to promote this "no one cares about" match?
I mean - if it was Partizan vs Zrvena Zvezda - I understand the Srbian youth excited. But, freakin Krasnodar? What is next? Yaroslavl? Shinnik?
08/17/2017 - 14:47
Mr12
Ive already put 100€ on Krasnodar with no doubt
08/17/2017 - 14:53
Mr12
@hassy
Dont get influenced by Serbian nationalists as they are perfect on brainwashing
08/17/2017 - 14:56
alex
Tole

Have you seen any games what Krasnodar played??
Did you see the game Terek Grozny vs Krasnodar?
Krasnodar has will and character with really talented coach Shalimov.
Check how many games played Laborda? He is reserved fw for Smolov.
Krasnodar can make draw against amkar because 1 priority is european league.
I dont have any doubts Krasnodar will win Zvezda
Krasnodar could struggle to score in 1 half.
I play 1 half draw 2 half Krasnodar to win..
08/17/2017 - 15:22
monami
A short win for hosts here is very likely. 1-0 is probably the most expected score. Anyway, a match to be avoided for betting. Or, you can do like me and put a small stake on the host"s win.
08/17/2017 - 16:30
aron50
Most of people are not aware how strong plays Red Star at the moment.We saw yesterday how Utrecht handled Zenit easy.Russians are strong in hockey but their footbal league with exception of CSKA is at Bulgarian level.At this moment Red Star is practically unbeatable of all teams from Russian league including CSKA.
08/17/2017 - 17:39
JamesK
Looks like it is pointless to write anything in this kind of comment chain. But maybe one more.

People like aron50 here seem to have no brains at all. ( maybe total Crvena fan or more likely internet troll ).

Russian league at Bulgarian level and Crvena unbeatable, ohohoh :). And bookies give odds of 4.50 and over to much better team that has, shall we say 70 % chance to win. Hope you bet your house on Crvena, cause you will have 5 houses tomorrow.
08/17/2017 - 18:13
BGR
aron50

I thought that I should never insult someone on the internet, but must say that you are complete idiot.One thing is to cheer for your club and other thing is betting.Red Star is unbeatable for all Russian teams?Yeah mate,in some parallel universe.Serbian league and Serbian teams are "walk in a park" for many many european teams for almost 15 years.I saw thousands of people celebrating Red Star or Partizan titles like a Champions League titles and 90% matches are fixed, coz in other way, they would barely won any of them.Serbian football is so amateur for a decades and some people just can't accept reality, coz it's better to live of old fame than admit that your club is just a shit hole.Every fu**ing year same story: Partizan/Red Star is way better than those mugs from Bulgaria, Hungary,Kazakhstan,Moldavia etc..and what happened?They are out of CL and EL early in summer or a win by penalty lottery for group stages where they are used for goal difference.
08/17/2017 - 18:29
FairPlayBet
@JamesK, don't even bother mate to explain, he is not worth. Just another kid who know nothing about betting. He does not know basic things, just a kid and fan of Zvezda.
I'm fan too, but I have no emotion in betting. I have had plenty bets (and tips here) on Zvezda but when it's time to go against, then you go against. This is site about betting not about who is whose fan. These kids can't understand that. Somewhere in the middle of this pointless debate , someone even called me a Partizan fan just because I suggested here betting on Krasnodar. BTW, I probably have had more ROAD games with Crvena zvezda than they watched on TV. But never mind, they will learn. Maybe not so fast and it will be painful, but will learn.
As for me, I would bet even against my own brother if I think it is valuable bet. And here I think the odds are way above realistic for this match up. Whether it will be wining bet, we will see but only someone who does not know anything about betting will say this bet has no value.
Give me 100 match ups like this and every time these odds, so we will see who is in green and who in red.
08/17/2017 - 18:31
aron50
BGR OK,thanks,we will see tonight who is idiot and who good tipster.
08/17/2017 - 18:37
Admin
@aron50

This is not the deal. Who is the good and the idiot.

The fact is that you are trolling everyone to your comments, including editors. In the end, 90% of the cases you prove yourself terrible long.

We are not going to approve any more comments from you. It's enough.
08/17/2017 - 18:41
Admin
*terrible wrong
08/17/2017 - 18:42
MG
I also laugh @Omg it's not Fifa ranking but Uefa ranking, if ranking isn't relevant why UEFA is putting it???
So Crvena Zvezda is class above all Croatian clubs based on what, past history? Since Zvezda didn't met with any Croatian club in recent past and assume that is still class above is equal of thinking from 7 year Zvezda fan boy. Until they met in any UEFA competition, UEFA ranking is only indicator that they are not class above Croatian teams. Situation is quite opposite.
08/17/2017 - 18:46
alex
1:0 and complete domination of krasnodar.
08/17/2017 - 20:22
kirikiri
The sure thing between all these comments...is that Crzna Zvesda is a pure crap team, only good to beat farmers team in their country. Look at this play, even the football team of my village will score a goal against them
08/17/2017 - 21:09
Martin Kamenarski
3;2 ft means that Crvena has all the chances scoring 1 or 2 in Serbia.
08/17/2017 - 21:36
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